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Re: Adrentacar and Spantel

Fri, 03 November 2006 12:43

scamwammer
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Registered: October 2006

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Gregster wrote on Thu, 02 November 2006 08:58

I have bought them from a man called Howard Kas.
I also had been in contacts with other people.
I am still now "paying" for my mistake.
If someone knows where we could contact somebody who can find them and punish them. I am in.
I don't care how they punish them (legally or illegaly).
If I cross upon them, they are dead.
Well they are dead already, they just don't know it yet.

Now Gregster, we should not be wanting to be violent nor should we be advocating violence, which I am sure you are not wishing to do. A good day in court and some time behind bars would be good for these fellows.

Now can we be sure that his name is 'Kas' and not 'Cass'. I would hate to falsely accuse anyone of anything, but I would like to point out a little coincidence that may be worth investigating a little. This gentleman called Howard Kas/Cass, who sold us Adrentacar shares, started off selling shares in European Day Spa & Tanning. European Day Spa & Tanning changed its name to European Diversified Holdings Inc., which took over Adrentacar. Now it is perhaps just a terrible coincidence, but if I do a WHOIS enquiry on a little domain name called 'www.endlesssummertan.biz', lo and behold the administrative contact is a gentlemen called Howard Cass. Now wouldn't it be nice to ask him whether he has anything to do with European Day Spa & Tanning?

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Re: Adrentacar and Spantel

Sat, 04 November 2006 03:06

scamwammer
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Registered: October 2006

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Are there any people living in the US out there who also bought Adrentacar shares through Raymond Lloyd & Associates and who could press charges in America if we happened to find that Mr Kas/Cass is living in the US?

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Re: Adrentacar and Spantel

Sat, 04 November 2006 08:27

Gregster
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Registered: December 2004
Location: Slovenia

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It is Cass not Kas as I wrote.
My mistake sorry.
I bought Adrentacar and then they snd me (after a year) new ones on EDHC. Since it made an aquisition. How apropriate.
Its a scam and they stole our money. Court and prison?? I don't trust them. And I don't get anything from it. But if a get my hands on them... Then I will get the satisfaction. Few broken bones could do the trick.
The chance tat i might see the money or at least some of it I left behind. I am still today paying for the mistake I made, so that is why I am not into al that love and peace and court will do it thing. Sorry.

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Re: Adrentacar and Spantel

Mon, 06 November 2006 09:21

scamwammer
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Registered: October 2006

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Try getting your answers here:

http://www.whois.net/whois_new.cgi?d=endlesssummer tan&tld=biz

Registrant Name: Howard Cass
Registrant Organization: Endless Summer Tan Hair & Beauty Studio
Registrant Address1: 224 Park Road
Registrant City: West Hartford
Registrant State/Province: CT
Registrant Postal Code: 06119-2015
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Country Code: US
Registrant Phone Number: +1.8602318388

If you get any answers, I am sure we will all be interested to know about them. It may, of course, be a completely different Howard Cass, but I doubt it.

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Re: Adrentacar and Spantel

Mon, 06 November 2006 09:23

scamwammer
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Registered: October 2006

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Forgot the email address:

Registrant Email: howard1@emailaccount.com

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Re: Adrentacar and Spantel

Tue, 07 November 2006 15:33

scamwammer
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Registered: October 2006

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Adrentacar is alive and kicking at www.adrentacar.com

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Re: Adrentacar and Spantel

Fri, 15 December 2006 02:49

Tor
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Registered: December 2006

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I have also been cheated by these people!

The names of the different people I had contact with at the time I bought shares in what at the time was AdRentaCar, later converted to European Diversified Holdings were:

Charles Cusak (phone number at the time: 0034 952667400)
Tim Dabulis (phone number at the time: 0034 626351296)
Don Cox at "Clearing Services" (phone 0034 952906071)
Roy Sweet at "Morgan Paris & Co (phone 0034 952900504)
Arthur Hilardio, also at MPC
Richard Pollits, at OTC Capital (0034 952667400)
Also possibly an individual named John Kemp, I think at MPC

I still hold a certificate for 1000 shares, and I would be intersted in persuing this case in a court of law.

Does anyone know the whereabouts of any of these individuals. If so, please send me an email at tor_ostlund@hotmail.com

Tor

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Re: Adrentacar and Spantel

Tue, 14 August 2007 10:35

spider
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Registered: August 2007

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Hi All,

I just found out about this forum and for a moment I felt some relief. I've been bitten by Spantel's shares ..thanks to Goodman Hart and Clearing Services ... I'd like to know if any action has been taken, and what happened to all that money ripped off us. Can any one update me if possible? Thanks to all

Spider

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Re: Adrentacar and Spantel

Tue, 21 August 2007 16:21

spider
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Registered: August 2007

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Re: Adrentacar and Spantel

Mon, 17 September 2007 10:22

Nikos
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Registered: September 2007
Location: Brussels

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Hi,

I'm in the same case, i react so late because i don't think this story will go to the court but if you have more information, let me know, I can try to find names also

Nicolas Strouboulis

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Re: Adrentacar and Spantel

Fri, 09 July 2010 14:37

BillyBob
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Registered: July 2010

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Re: Spantel & Arthurs Round Table Consulants Inc. Adrentacar.
Why doesn't anyone go after these con men, a class action law suit may be the best way to go if the police won't do anything, I done a bit of research and both Arthur Keoshkerian who lives at 18 West Park Blvd. in Gormley, Ontario L0H 1G0 home number 905-727-8643 fax 905-727-9940 cell number 416-889-4973 and R, (Raffie) Ebrekdjian, home phone 416-968-1060, home address 120 Mt Pleasant Rd., Toronto, ON M4W 2S2. These people have long records and are known in the community to be into pushing drugs at least that's the word on the street.These guys are into all sorts of cons. Jonathan ARTHUR'S SON WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN LURED INTO THE SCAM BY HIS FATHER ARTHUR. Both parties are supposed to have millions in offshore banks. The info wasn't to hard to dig up on these guys. A good law firm who might take a class action case is Siskind Cromarty in Toronto. Good Luck

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Re: Adrentacar and Spantel

Sat, 09 October 2010 04:20

bigale
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Registered: September 2004

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http://www.realpennies.com/otc/SPAL
Has anybody seen that Spantel changed his name to Systems America inc?
What does that mean for us?

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Re: Adrentacar and Spantel

Sun, 10 October 2010 05:33

Dick
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Registered: May 2003

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Sorry no information on the consequences or the name change.

Just want to share that last week I have been approached by John McGregor of the Singapore Securities Group expressing interest in buying securities as Spantel etc.
A little googling let me to the following link:

http:// boards.fool.co.uk/sage-consultants-11894148.aspx?s ort=whole

What would be your opinion on this? Too good to be true?
Thanks.

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Re: Adrentacar and Spantel

Sun, 10 October 2010 05:48

bigale
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Registered: September 2004

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Me too, but it's a scam. It is the same as SAGE, look at the Motley Fool page: http://boards.fool.co.uk/corrected-reply-sage-cons ultants-state-here-11894213.aspx?sort=postdate

Joop
Netherlands

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Re: Adrentacar and Spantel

Sun, 10 October 2010 05:52

bigale
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Registered: September 2004

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Look also here http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=SPAL.PK

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Re: Adrentacar and Spantel

Sun, 10 October 2010 10:58

scamwammer
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Someone I know took the matter of AdRentacar to court in Malaga, but without success. AdRentacar, which was bought by EDH, was a non-existent company. If you go to Malaga and pay a visit, you will find that the address is a branch of Cargest S.L. The Spanish court ruled that investors needed to be more careful and laid the blame for fraudulent activity at the door of investors! The police did not appear to have investigated it at all.

There also seems to be some link between Cargest SA and AdRentacar, which needs to be investigated. Apart from the fact that Adrentcar's address is given as a branch of Cargest, if you do some research you will find that Cargest SL is the Registrant Contact of the AdRentacar domain name (see attachment).

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Re: Adrentacar and Spantel

Mon, 27 December 2010 05:08

bigale
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Registered: September 2004

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Look at this Systema America inc
What names can we find here:
http://www.hotstockmarket.com/forums/showthread.ph p?t=78967

go to the first link and look for Carlin

[Updated on: Mon, 27 December 2010 05:13]

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Re: Adrentacar and Spantel

Thu, 20 January 2011 12:07

Casey4
Messages: 19
Registered: March 2003
Location: Nordic

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Happy New Year all! How many are left here, I wonder?

Some new facts are:
Spantel has changed name to Systems America, inc registred 17.02.2010 By none other than Robert (Bob) Carlin! http://www.sunbiz.org/pdf/68876907.pdf
Spantel Global Solutions, Inc was incorporated 05.11.2009 by guess who? Louis Palumbo. http://www.sunbiz.org/pdf/90727139.pdf
These crooks are still going strong- living handsomely in Florida!
I do not know if this is of any help to us- these are just facts of operation not that they have done anything illegal?
Apparently they have been charged and jailed (brought into custody) for the Goldman Heart setup but have they been found guilty and sentenced with a fine or such? Have they put the blame on some larger 'fish' and been released? Getting our money/losses back is probably only possible if we go after the bank recieving our money- they must have operated in full knowledge that this was all 'shady' transactions- supporting a crime!
Anyone here with enough legal knowledge of how to 'go after' a bank?
Anyone here that can get information about the cirkumstances arround the detainment of Carlin and Palumbo, either in Malaga, Spain or Germany? Is there a coincidence here that some of the Finish victims have been contacted by the German police, through the Finish police, with the question of "wether they wanted to press charges"? Press charges to what?
Are we enough people here to still keep this case alive? and can one of you Finish members give us a rundown of your experience with the Finish police case?
Sincerely

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Casey4

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Re: Adrentacar and Spantel

Fri, 21 January 2011 03:29

bigale
Messages: 5
Registered: September 2004

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Here some e-mail exchange I had so far, SYAI is doing around $ 3

To spantel------------------------------------------- ------------
I heard Spantel changed its name to systems america inc.
What does that mean for my Spantel shares?
I have 6000 Shares
yours
Joop Eelvelt

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Dear Mr. Eelvelt:

The company has changed its name to Systems American Inc, please direct all inquires to info@systemsamerica.com

Thank you,

Ana Tauler
Spantel 2000 SAU

-------- Mensaje original -------- Asunto:

Fecha: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 13:51:10 +0000
De: Spantel <info@spantel.es>
Responder a: eelcom@planet.nl
Para: info <info@spantel.es>
Nombre: Joop Eelvelt
E-mail: eelcom@planet.nl
Telefono: 0715614957 netherlands

To systems America------------------------------------------- ----

Dear people

I heard Spantel changed its name to systems america inc.
What does that mean for my Spantel shares?
I have 6000 Shares
yours
Joop Eelvelt
The Netherlands

-------------------------------------------------- ---------------

Hello Joop,
I just spoke to our CEO about your question and he said I should direct your inquiry to OTCStock Transfer Inc.
(801) 485-5555

Ask for Stephanie Campbell.

stephanie@otcstock.net is her email address

Thank you so much,

Jan Schieberl

Jan Schieberl | Office Executive | Systems America, Inc.

Direct: 925.226.2460 | Cell: 925-719-1013 | Fax: 925.867.2826

2603 Camino Ramon, Suite 260, San Ramon, California 94583

Email: Jan.Schieberl@systemsamerica.com

web: http://www.systemsamerica.com/

to stephanie@otcstock.net ---------------------------------------

Dear Stephanie

My question is on the bottom of this mail, I heard Spantel changed its name.
Why wasn't I informed, and what were the conditions?
Has it any use to switch my shares into syai shares?
Hoping to hear from you
yours
Joop Eelvelt
Achter de Lindehoeve 14
2251PJ, Voorschoten
The Netherlands.
eelcom@planet.nl

I heard Spantel changed its name to systems america inc.
What does that mean for my Spantel shares?
I have 6000 Shares
yours
Joop Eelvelt
The Netherlands

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